{"id":13944,"date":"2022-08-04T11:25:05","date_gmt":"2022-08-04T11:25:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/dataethics.eu\/the-troublesome-case-of-using-google-in-european-schools\/"},"modified":"2022-08-09T08:22:07","modified_gmt":"2022-08-09T08:22:07","slug":"the-troublesome-case-of-using-google-in-european-schools","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/dataethics.eu\/da\/the-troublesome-case-of-using-google-in-european-schools\/","title":{"rendered":"Den sv\u00e6re case at bruge Google i folkeskolen"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><strong>Analyse. Det er billigt og bekvemt at bruge Google Workspace og Google Chromebooks i danske skoler, og mange l\u00e6rere og elever er glade for det, da de allerede kender systemet og v\u00e6rkt\u00f8jerne, som fungerer s\u00e5 godt. Men at g\u00f8re det lovligt er meget meget sv\u00e6rt &#8211; og etisk set er det sandsynligvis umuligt. Sagen er et hot emne i Danmark, som st\u00e5r overfor samme problemer, som de l\u00f8b ind i sidste \u00e5r i Holland.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Cirka halvdelen af de danske folkeskoler bruger Google Workspace (tidligere &#8216;Google Suite for Education&#8217;). Der blev givet gr\u00f8nt lys af Datatilsynet i 2017 til at bruge kernen i Google Workspace (Gmail, Hangouts, Chat, Meet, Docs, Sheets, Slides, Drive). Men det kr\u00e6ver, at man laver ordentlige risiko- og konsekvensanalyser, laver de rigtige aftaler med Google og sl\u00e5r forskellige tjenester fra i indstillingerne p\u00e5 den rigtige m\u00e5de. Helsing\u00f8r Kommune gjorde det ikke rigtigt, og derfor forb\u00f8d den danske databeskyttelsesmyndighed kommunen at overf\u00f8re data til tredjelande og at bruge Google Workspace.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.datatilsynet.dk\/presse-og-nyheder\/nyhedsarkiv\/2022\/jul\/datatilsynet-nedlaegger-behandlingsforbud-i-chromebook-sag\">Datatilsynes afg\u00f8relse<\/a> blev offentliggjort midt i sommerferien og skabte kaos p\u00e5 de mange skoler, der bruger Google Workspace. Ingen kommune endnu har fundet den rigtige m\u00e5de at g\u00f8re det p\u00e5, og ingen har f\u00e5et den endelige godkendelse fra Datatilsynet. Andre kommuner som Ballerup og \u00c5rhus mener, at de har gjort det bedre end Helsing\u00f8r, men de ligger i bunken p\u00e5 Datatilsynets skrivebord. Helsing\u00f8r Kommune har sendt en 1700 siders risikoanalyse ind, som Datatilsynet nu er ved at kigge n\u00e6rmere p\u00e5, og den it-ansvarlige i kommunen Lars Rich siger, at det er sikkert nok at forts\u00e6tte med at bruge systemet, da risikoen er lav, siger han til <a href=\"https:\/\/radarmedia.dk\/helsingoer-risikerer-millionboede-fortsaetter-med-chromebooks\/\">Radar<\/a> &#8211; og ignorerer dermed h\u00f8jt og flot, at en myndighed faktisk har kr\u00e6vet, at den stopper med at bruge Google.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Det store problem i denne sag er, at Google som standard ikke lever op til de europ\u00e6iske regler, og hvis en offentlig myndighed vil bruge det lovligt, skal den lave en masse turnarounds. Og s\u00e5 kan man m\u00e5ske bruge kernen i Google Workspace, men hvad med alle de andre tjenester, som ikke overholder reglerne, og som ikke har f\u00e5et gr\u00f8nt lys fra Datatilsynet: Google Search, Maps, Chrome og Youtube? For at bruge dem skal b\u00f8rnene logge ud af deres Google-skolekonto, og s\u00e5 vil de blive sporet og profileret af Google, og skal danske skoler fremme dette? Og hvad med dem under 13 \u00e5r, som slet ikke skal eller m\u00e5 bruge nogen af disse tjenester?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<pre class=\"wp-block-code\"><code>Er det ikke en samfundsm\u00e6ssig pligt at fort\u00e6lle b\u00f8rnene, at der findes andre browsere, s\u00f8gemaskiner, kort og overs\u00e6ttelsestjenester end Google?<\/code><\/pre>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Erfaringer fra Holland<\/strong><br>I Holland synes man at have fundet en l\u00f8sning, men det kr\u00e6ver nye og flere l\u00f8fter fra Google, som opererer med s\u00e5 mange forskellige privatlivspolitikker, at selv den norske databeskyttelsesmyndighed <a href=\"https:\/\/dataethics.eu\/da\/den-norske-databeskyttelsesmyndighed-irettesaetter-norske-kommuner-for-at-bruge-google-suite-for-education-i-skolen\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">har meget sv\u00e6rt ved<\/a> at forst\u00e5 dem.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I marts sidste \u00e5r konkluderede en risikovurdering i Holland, at 8 ud af 10 h\u00f8je risici for privatlivets fred i Googles produktivitetspakke, Workspace, stadig var til stede. De hollandske uddannelsesinstitutioner bad derefter den hollandske databeskyttelsesmyndighed om r\u00e5d. I slutningen af maj 2021 meddelte det hollandske datatilsyn skoler og universiteter, at de skulle stoppe med at bruge Google Workspace for Education inden starten af det nye skole\u00e5r. Men if\u00f8lge <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/2021\/03\/05\/dutch_government_identifies_10_high\/\">The Register<\/a> fandt de en l\u00f8sning, hvor Google lovede forbedringer af privatlivets fred:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>&#8220;Google vil ligesom Microsoft blive en processor for diagnostiske data. Det betyder, at Google kun m\u00e5 behandle disse data om den individuelle brug af tjenesterne til de form\u00e5l, der er godkendt af skolerne. Der er tre af disse form\u00e5l, nemlig at levere og sikre tjenesterne samt at holde dem ajour. Google m\u00e5 alts\u00e5 ikke behandle elevernes og de studerendes personoplysninger med henblik p\u00e5 reklame, markedsf\u00f8ring, profilering eller big data-analyse. Google vil ogs\u00e5 udvikle en databehandlingsversion af Chromebooks og Chrome-browseren til erhvervs- og uddannelseskunder.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I Danmark har Google kun lovet skolerne, at de ikke m\u00e5 bruge b\u00f8rnenes data til reklamer. Hvad med alle de andre form\u00e5l, hvor nogle af dem er blevet stoppet i Holland?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Sp\u00f8rgsm\u00e5let er ogs\u00e5, om den hollandske l\u00f8sning er god nok, og om det er en b\u00e6redygtig id\u00e9, at Holland og Danmark og andre europ\u00e6iske lande opdrager deres b\u00f8rn til at v\u00e6re afh\u00e6ngige af overv\u00e5gnings\u00f8konomien. N\u00e5r de forlader skolen, kender de kun Googles v\u00e6rkt\u00f8jer. Er det ikke en samfundsm\u00e6ssig pligt at lade dem vide, at der findes andre browsere, s\u00f8gemaskiner, kort og overs\u00e6ttelsestjenester end Google? Nogle af dem er europ\u00e6iske, og de overholder som standard vores love.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>L\u00f8sningen er ikke overv\u00e5gningsindustrien<\/strong><br>I Tyskland tillader de hverken Google eller Microsoft i skolerne. I Frankrig arbejder <a href=\"https:\/\/dataethics.eu\/da\/googlificering-af-den-danske-folkeskole\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">man ogs\u00e5 med alternativer<\/a> til overv\u00e5gningsindustriens tilbud. Og i Sverige har de oprettet <a href=\"https:\/\/nextcloud.com\/blog\/gdpr-compliant-collaboration-coming-to-750k-students-and-teachers-in-sweden\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">&#8220;The Sunet Drive SafeSpring-l\u00f8sningen&#8221; <\/a>sammen med Nextcloud, en tysk open source-baseret konkurrent til Google.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>S\u00e5 hvorfor tager danskerne og holl\u00e6nderne ikke et m\u00f8de med svenskerne for at lave et langsigtet b\u00e6redygtigt uddannelsessamarbejdssystem, der ikke er en del af den<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Update 9.8: Helsing\u00f8r Kommunes byr\u00e5d vedtog, at eleverne ikke m\u00e5 bruge Chromebooks, f\u00f8r de f\u00e5r gr\u00f8nt lys fra Datatilsynet. Datatilsynet unders\u00f8ger 20 andre kommuner, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dr.dk\/nyheder\/penge\/datatilsynet-undersoeger-google-software-i-20-kommuner-som-foraelder-ville-jeg-vaere\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">skriver DR<\/a>. Og jeg var i <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dr.dk\/lyd\/p4\/radioavisen\/radioavisen-2022-08-09-09-00\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Radioavisen<\/a> her til morgen om, hvad problemet er med brug af Google i folkeskolen. <\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Analyse. 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